Monday, June 27, 2011

The Truth About the Lin Kong Jing (part 4)

 Part 1 |  Part 2 | Part 3 | Part 4
We're finally to the part of the series, "The Truth About the Lin Kong Jing", that most people have been waiting for:

The actual practice itself.

We're done with theory. Now, it's time to get to work.

Like the rest of the series, my approach to Lin Kong Jing training varies in serveral ways from the "traditional" method. Personally, I feel like these variations are improvements.

But, I'll let you judge that.

Stand Up Like a Man -

Last week I introduced you to the Pushing and Pulling Hands Qigong method.

This qigong acts as a "warm-up" for the Zhan Zhuang, or Standing Meditation, exercises that form the meat of the Lin Kong Jing system.

The traditional Powerful Empty Force system consists of roughly 12 different Zhan Zhuang postures intended to develop 3 subsets of the Lin Kong Jing ability *.

This is way too many postures

It isn't a surprise that the Lin Kong Jing system has so many postures as it is closely related to Yiquan. But, then again, I've always thought Yiquan had too many postures as well.

To simplify things I want you to focus on 4 of the most important postures:

Double-Weighted Posture 1 - "Hands on the Water"(bi-lateral)

You'll be standing with your feet about shoulder width apart or slightly further. Shift your weight so that all of it  rests evenly across the whole surface of your foot. Lightly clench the ground with your toes.

Next tuck your butt in as though you are going to do a slight "crunch" while standing. This will cause your lower back to flatten slightly. As you tuck your butt in you will also tuck your chin in slightly. This will cause the top of your head to rise up a small amount.

Place your tongue to the roof of your mouth, behind your teeth, and begin breathing through your nose. You can utilize either the Buddhist or the Taoist breathing method. (mix it up with both)

Now, bring your arms up with your elbows bent and palms down as shown in the pictures above. Make sure you keep your shoulders relaxed and your armpits "hollow" (imagine as though there are golf balls in your armpits).

A good visualization for this posture is to imagine your hands are resting on top of the surface of water.

Double-Weighted Posture 2 - "High Embrace"(bi-lateral)

This posture is virtually the same as posture 1, except the arm position.

Instead of "resting your palms on top of water", you'll be doing a high "embrace" type posture. Keep the hand high (fingertips about forehead level) and make sure to leave several inches of space between the fingers of each hand.

All other postural requirements remain the same.

"Single-Weighted" Posture 1 - San Ti Shi (uni-lateral)

I've discussed San Ti Shi Posture in detail here.

"Single-Weighted" Posture 2 - "Empty-Step Embrace" (uni-lateral)

This posture is very similar to San Ti except for the hand and arm position.

Your going to be holding you arms in an "Embrace" type posture with the lead hand held about face level and the rear hand at about heart/chest level.

Make sure you relax your shoulders and keep the "golf balls in the armpits" visualization.

During all of these postures make sure you allow yourself to relax (but not so much that you break posture). You should feel your weight sinking into the ground beneath you.

There are other aspects to "rooting" but these will be good for now.

Also, strive to maintain an "aliveness" in your postures - you should feel as though you could "spring into action" at any moment.

"How Long and How Often Should I Hold These Postures?"

There are all kinds of crazy stories about martial arts masters having new students hold Zhan Zhuang postures for ridiculous amounts of time. I've heard as long as two days!

 And all of this was to prove how serious the student was about training.

Other stories describe how some instructors would teach nothing but Zhan Zhuang for as many as three years - again to test the seriousness of the students.

Initially, my instructor, Richard Mooney, and Paul Dong all suggested that Lin Kong Jing practitioners should perform Zhan Zhuang training for roughly and hour a day followed by an hour and a half of seated meditation.

That's two and half hours of training nothing but standing and sitting still!


Look, I'm a huge fan of Zhan Zhuang but it is simply irresponsible to tell your students to perform this much standing every day.

Lucky for me, sifu Dragoo ended up telling me the truth.

According to my instructor, a Lin Kong Jing practitioner need only "stand" for about 10-20 minutes a day. In my own training I have found that the 10-20 minute time length is perfect.

We're looking for quality not quantity.

So, here is what a typical 12 minute session would look like:

* Warm up with some Joint Mobility Drills  and Pushing/Pulling Hands Qigong
1. San Ti - hold for 2 minutes each side
2. Double Weighted Posture 1 - hold for 2 minutes
3. Single Weighted Posture 2 - hold for 2 minutes each side
4. Double Weighted Posture 2 - hold for 2 minutes. 
* Finish with 3 reps of "Gathering Clouds".

Pretty simple stuff.

1-2 sessions of  this routine daily is more than enough Zhan Zhuang training.

In the beginning you want to focus on your breathing and maintaining the posture. As you become more and more comfortable in the stances you can begin to add certain visualizations.

Now, Lin Kong Jing training has several visualizations and "meditations" you can use, but early on (and especially for those who are interesting in developing a strong fighting ability) the "Creating a Sense of 'Enemy' Drill" is the most important.

Creating a Sense of "Enemy"

Now this visualization is great for a few reasons

  • It helps you overcome come the fear of fighting.
  • It helps develop the right "intent" you will need should you find yourself in a violent encounter.
  • It helps you develop more self confidence and may help you project that self confidence so any would-be attacker may think twice before trying anything. (this is the real Lin Kong Jing)
This visualization is incredibly simple. 

In Paul Dong's book, and the way I was originally taught, a special stance was used for this visualization. But I don't like the stance and prefer to use either one of the "Single Weighted" stances or just a standard fighting stance. 

In general I just use a typical Muay Thai/Kickboxing style stance.

Now get in stance and face a wall/heavy bag/tree. Next, imagine as though what you're standing before is actually a very strong opponent or attacker. This person wants to kill you and everyone you love.

You really have to get this image in your head and really experience the emotions it creates. Feel your heart rate increase. Feel the anxiety and anger, but control it - direct it at your target. Feel yourself becoming ready to attack at any moment. Your whole body should feel as though you are about to lash out at this person. 

It has to be real in your mind. 

Hold this visualization for 2-5 minutes while standing in your your stance. 

Another way you can use this visualization is just prior to and during a shadowboxing/heavy bag session. Some of the best fighters in the world visualize beating their opponent during training before they ever step inside the ring or cage with them.

You don't have to do the drill every day, but the more often you do it the better results you will see. 

Make sure you spend a time daily in silent seated meditation to help balance out this drill.  

Conclusion - 

We're almost at the end of the series. 

In the final post I want to address some of the controversies surrounding the Lin Kong Jing and give you guys my opinions on them. 

Also, I want to point out that there are other meditations and visualizations utilized in the Lin Kong Jing system. Some are useful while others are not. I'll be creating a post on power development used in (Xing)Yiquan and the Lin Kong Jing which will have the drill I have found most useful. But I want to wait and have that as a stand alone post. So, you guys will have to wait until then (I promise it won't be too long). 

Train Hard, 
Josh Skinner

* Paul Dong talks about three different versions of the Lin Kong Jing ability. One version deals with using "Qi" to attack pressure points, other focuses on developing large amounts of physical power called "Shi Jing" or solid force, and the third type is a more general type of "Qi" which focuses on knocking people down with your energy. 

A fourth type of Lin Kong Jing is the type I teach and develop. It focuses on the development of "Shi Jing" and a powerful fighting intent/spirit. 



  1. Just came across this. Very interesting and true. I never went in depth in my research or writing into LKJ, because to me it seems easier to simply hit someone. The story of the levitating monk and the river ferry. However, I feel that the type of force and mentality LKJ develops is similar in nature to 'explosive force', that is projecting Qi in each strike, and that the means of developing them is similar. Nice work here.

  2. See, that's my main issue with people's perception of the LKJ: it IS easier to hit someone.

    And the point I want to make with this series is that the LKJ isn't about turning you into "Superman" or a "Jedi". The LKJ is about helping you hit your opponent/bad guy harder and more often.

    Thanks for the support.

    Train Hard.

  3. Hi,

    I'm a little confused. You show the first 2 bi-lateral postures (hands on the water and high embrace) but then don't include them in the training routine? Or did I just misread something.

    1., I included both:

      "* Warm up with some Joint Mobility Drills and Pushing/Pulling Hands Qigong
      1. San Ti - hold for 2 minutes each side
      2. Double Weighted Posture 1 - hold for 2 minutes
      3. Single Weighted Posture 2 - hold for 2 minutes each side
      4. Double Weighted Posture 2 - hold for 2 minutes.
      * Finish with 3 reps of "Gathering Clouds". "

      Sorry for the confusion.

      Train Hard,
      Josh Skinner

    2. Hi Josh,

      Thanks for the reply. I am still confused, though. Maybe I'm just dense.

      Ok, you listed 4 postures. I have labeled them A through D for reference.

      A) Bilateral Posture 1 - Hands on the Water
      B) Bilateral Posture 2 - High Embrace
      C) Single Weighted Posture 1 - San Ti Shi
      D) Single Weighted Posture 2 - Empty Step Embrace

      Then for the training, you listed the following four postures:

      1. San Ti (Posture C from above)

      2. Double Weighted Posture 1 (there is no previously mentioned "double weighted posture". The first instance of the word "double" on this page comes from this step). Is "Double Weighted Posture 1" the same as "Bilateral Posture 1" (Posture A from above)?

      3. Single Weighted Posture 2 (Posture D from above).

      4. Double Weighted Posture 2 (there is no previously mentioned "Double Weighted posture"). Is "Double Weighted Posture 2" the same as "Bilateral Posture 2" from above?

      Maybe the names just got changed and I missed them. If not, I'm still confused because then in that case you teach the two bilateral postures but never actually use them, and then you have people do two double weighted postures that are never actually taught.

      Hope this explains why I'm confused.


  4. You're right....I messed that up. Double Weighted and Bi-Lateral postures are the same thing. But I can see how than can be confusing.

    I'll fix it. Sorry about that and thank you for bringing it to my attention.


    1. Makes much more sense now. Thanks!

  5. You might also use a weighted vest, starting with 10 lbs, five in front and 5 in back. This will help to get more training in rooting.

  6. I remember Richard Mooney when he lived in Florida south of St. Petersburg. He let me use some of his pictures for my site on LKJ. Then suddenly he requested they all be removed including the article he wrote and relocated.

    How is he? And where does now live? I thought he was pretty genuine.

    1. It's my understanding that Sigung Mooney has stepped out of the "public eye", so to speak.

      Several years ago Sigung Mooney agreed to be involved in "test" put on by skeptics: Dr. John David Morenski and Dr. William P. Glasheen (both associated in some way with James Randi). According to a paper they published soon after the test, Sigung Mooney failed to demonstrate the ability to move test subjects using "empty force" (both he and the test subjects were in separate rooms).

      According to Morenski and Glasheen, there is a video of this entire test. However, to my knowledge, this video has never been released to the public and was only seen by a panel of "judges" selected by Morenski and Glasheen.

      The online skeptical crowd used this paper to run Sigung Mooney through the mud. There were (and still are) a lot of personal attacks made on his character as a result of that "test" and paper. I'd walk away too if that were me.

      However, I don't feel Morenski and Glasheen disproved the LKJ ability in that "test" - especially not by my definition of the Lin Kong Jing. The sample size was tiny, the testing protocols were absurd, and those running the test were clearly biased. It would be an insult to junk science to call this test junk science. Basically, it was a test designed so he would fail no matter what.

      But that's why I feel like this was one of the main reasons he essentially went to do his own thing outside of the public scrutiny of the internet and the seminar circuit.

      As for where he is now: I don't know for sure.

      I reached out to him recently for a recipe for some herbal tea. His reply was both cheerful and helpful, and I got the impression he is happy and (hopefully) doing well.

      Please feel free to contact me via email ( if you'd like to discuss this further.

  7. 10-20 minutes standing time is OK for beginners, and good for health. But If you want to go deep and get the "real benefits" you must stand for at least 1 hour, the more the better. This is what any real master would confirm. Just my 2 cents.

    1. I completely disagree. There's a point of diminishing returns where additional standing adds little to your overall training. 10 minutes daily is more than enough for a combat athlete who is putting time into skill work, conditioning, sparring, and strength training.

      I've already outlined the real benefits of standing in these articles as well as what it takes from a serious student to realize those benefits.

      Suggesting that a student needs to spend AT LEAST 2 hour standing is doing a major disservice to that student and it makes me question whether or not you are qualified to be giving advice to anyone regarding the proper training of a combat athlete/martial artist.

  8. Josh your stand the stake/ like a post posture is incorrect... 1 shoulder width apart bro not 1 and 1/2 shoulder width apart. You're leaving out the sitting mediation too bro? smh... empty force is far more powerful than you will ever achieve with only 10-20min daily... try 2 hrs standing and 3 hrs sitting med a day for 4 years. then we will talk

    1. Get the sand out of your vagina. Josh has trained with some very credible and serious people on the subject. He's also been a practicing martial artist and MMA fighter for years. He's going out of his way to post not only information on a very obscure practice, but he is also doing so by putting himself out there and posting pictures of himself, losing all anonymity in the process. Let's see your website on LKJ and Zhan Zhuang, with your personal pictures and real name, and your credentials before "we will talk".

  9. Very nice website bro. Unfortunately, too many martial art enthusiasts have been misinformed by the movies and unrealistic scenarios. Truth is, 1 man would have a very difficult time defeating 10 attackers at the same time, even if he were as bad ass as Bruce Lee! Also, force training of any kind is JUST THAT, training force. Bruce Lee even called bullshit on so called chi powers, and recommended refining and mastering one's own force. The weird thing is in Truth, that when you do properly train your force as delivery and accumation internal as well as externally, to those unfamiliar and without the discipline, you would appear to have supernatural ability. When in reality you have simply sharpened the mind body tool, as a tool. You have refined force through you. No different than a seasoned salesman can refine his her art of charisma and interpersonal skills. So much that the sales person seems to hypnotize or effortlessly persuade the buyer. Kind of like that, a martial artist can refine the body mind into less discovered abilities. But those abilities ARE NOT what movies or over active imaginations display. The crazy part is that, the real for REAL skills are scarier and more exotic than what most expect. I will share a very small example... I was once in a very very heavy street fight. I wont say i lost or won the fight... I was not training as much then but i still had some gifts. I have taught and trained many years, and that fight was actually not mine, the guy attacked me after he attacked a guy who was antagonizing him. Anyways, we fought,long and hard, he had me outweighed and out strengthened by much. A few days later i told my friend who was there that I put SOMETHING on that guy when we fought, I said wait 2 weeks, we will hear something from him about it. 2 weeks later EXACTLY... A coworker tells me and the guy who was with me at,the fight that he saw the guy i fought many days later about 2 weeks... By the 2nd week he told us, that the guy i,fought said if he, my coworker ever sees me to tell me I can fight very well and he has no problem with me, that he felt deep respect. Now... That may seem small, but reread the story to see the fine printed details. Force training is a skill of self development simply using the mind body. As you sharpen your art, naturally you reach into SOMETHING seemingly mysterious... And it can deepen ofcourse.